was introduced and how they felt about it? Anybody like it, didn’t like it?

McLuhan: I hope you have a book down in the Columbia bookstore by Professor Ryle of Oxford. It’s on the progress of the Platonic dialogue. I don’t know the exact title because I’ve never had the book in my hand, but there’s a new book by Ryle on the development of the Platonic dialogue. It did not have very highbrow beginnings. It began as fun and games.

Forsdale: That is, the dialogue, not the book.

McLuhan: The dialogue of Plato. It began, in fact, Plato, we’re told, came to Athens with a mime troupe just to perform and be somewhat like the Noh Japanese plays.